UB Still Cereusly Screwed-Up

Ultimate Bet thought they could escape some of their past problems by moving to the Cereus Network (basically a combination of 2 corrupt poker sites: Absolute Poker and UB).  But, yesterday more issues arose when a very strange hand happened with one of their super-users pros, Phil Hellmuth.

Phil was playing heads-up limit with a player using the alias DOUBLEBALLER.  They had been playing for a bit, then suddenly this hand happened:

Stage #XXXXXXX: Holdem (1 on 1) Normal $200/$400 – 2008-12-20 04:15:23 (ET)
Table: FIR AVE (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 – PHILHELLMUTH ($4495 in chips)
Seat 6 – DOUBLEBALLER ($7494 in chips)
PHILHELLMUTH – Posts small blind $100
DOUBLEBALLER – Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
PHILHELLMUTH – Raises $300 to $400
DOUBLEBALLER – Raises $400 to $600
PHILHELLMUTH – Raises $400 to $800
DOUBLEBALLER – Calls $200
*** FLOP *** [Js Kc Kh]
DOUBLEBALLER – Checks
PHILHELLMUTH – Bets $200
DOUBLEBALLER – Raises $400 to $400
PHILHELLMUTH – Calls $200
*** TURN *** [Js Kc Kh] [2h]
DOUBLEBALLER – Bets $400
PHILHELLMUTH – Raises $800 to $800
DOUBLEBALLER – Raises $800 to $1200
PHILHELLMUTH – Calls $400
*** RIVER *** [Js Kc Kh 2h] [9c]
DOUBLEBALLER – Bets $400
PHILHELLMUTH – Calls $400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DOUBLEBALLER – Shows [Kd Qh] (Three of a kind, kings)
PHILHELLMUTH – Mucks
PHILHELLMUTH Collects $5599 from main pot

*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($5600) | Rake ($1)
Board [Js Kc Kh 2h 9c]
Seat 4: PHILHELLMUTH (dealer) (small blind) won Total ($5599) HI: ($5599) [Mucked] [2s 10s]
Seat 6: DOUBLEBALLER (big blind) HI:lost with Three of a kind, kings [Kd Qh – B:Kh,P:Kd,B:Kc,P:Qh,B:Js]

Here is the evidence:

Apparently mucking your cards can get you a win in a hand???  And also, Phil later confirmed that DOUBLEBALLER had the best hand in a chat:

DOUBLEBALLER: any idea what you are in for phil?
DOUBLEBALLER: it messed up my stack
PHILHELLMUTH: i think i bought 4k
PHILHELLMUTH: but not sure
DOUBLEBALLER: i won that had with KQ right?
DOUBLEBALLER: K K J board?
PHILHELLMUTH: yes U did

Poker players have been up in arms about this accross various internet poker forums, and fortunately the player in this hand was returned the money from this hand, but HOW THE HELL DOES THIS EVEN HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!  HOW MANY OTHER PLAYERS HAVE BEEN AFFECTED???

I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it again…. stay away from Absolute Poker and Ultimate Bet… go play at Pokerstars instead or somewhere that doesn’t let this kind of crap happen!

/rant

6 thoughts on “UB Still Cereusly Screwed-Up”

  1. That is so messed up. I don’t see how they can still be in business. I won’t even trust them with $4, let alone $4k. I know that debugging a system can be hard and time consuming, but it still needs to be done.

  2. if people spent more time doing studys they would have in there research that ultimate bet and absolute arent alone,and to me the best soft ware in online poker belongs to score poker,the handling off cards are by far better then any big name poker site i played on,theres no real money play its all free,with a small weekly cash tournament wish all you have to do is finish in the top 3 in weekly sattlite tournaments,with the cash tournament every wednesday

  3. i used to play in Ultimatebet, when i playin high stake tables, i always smell something wrong. some of the players act like same.they play in same manner. talk in same way.all their activites r very similar n always they have little bit better hand than me. n i lost cople tousands. I reported some players to Ultimatebet authorities…what happened is they closed my account. when I asked em the reason, they told me tht i’m a dangerous player…..I’m pretty sure Ultimate has still thier own players.

  4. i’m sharing my 2 experience wth ultimatbet….
    1. I WAS ON 3/6 TABLE. I HAD ACE HIGH FLUSH. ONE ON ONE TABLE. OPPONENT GOT 3 OF A KIND…FUNNY THING HE WON THE POT….NO CLUE HOWCOME IT’S HAPPENED…I COULDN’T UNDERSTAND VERY FIRST… I WAS SHOCKED. IT WAS AROUND 800 BUKS POT. I THOUGHT MIGHT BE IT WAS FULL HOUSE..THEN I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE THE BOARD WASN’T PAIRED…THEN HOWCOME… THEN I WENT BACK N LOOK THE FLOP N HIS HANDS….HE HAD POCKET 8’S THE FLOP WAS K 8 5(ALL DIES) Jc 10s. MY HAND- Ad Qd. I HAD HIGH FLUSH N ST8. STILL I LOST…I REPORT TOULTIMATE…THEY SAID THEY MAKE AN INVESTIGATION…N FINALLY I GOT AN EMAIL FROM EM THT STATES EVERYTHING WAS NORMAL. UNFORTUNATELLY, I HADN’T RECORDED ANY ANY PROOF..SO LATER ON I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIGERED OUT THT WHEN IT HAPPENED WHICH TABLE WAS THT N ALL CRAPS.

  5. another experience, i was playing on 4 table at time. believe me…i got pocket 8’s on 3 table at a time.unbelievable. the flop was like K, 8, 9 (I DON’T REMEMBER OTHER CARDS) BUT I NEVER FORGET THIS, ON 3 TABLES, THE FLOP WAS SAME.(B4 TURN) TURN N RIVER WERE DIFFERENT. EVERY ONE ELSE FOLDED EXCEPT ONE GUY ON 3 TABLES…(MY OPPONENTS ID’S WERE DIFFERENT ON 3 TABLES..I DON’T KNOW THEY WERE SAME PERSON)THEY WERE KEEP RAISING ME ON 3 TABLES. EVERYONE SHOWS THE SAME BET STYLE N PLAY STYLE. FINALLY I WAS FORCED TO GO ALL-IN ON 3 TABLES. WHEN I SAW THEIR HANDS …MY GOD I WANTED TO DIE….THEY ALL HAVE POCKET K’S ON 3 TABLES!I LOST ALL POTS.AS SOON AS THEY HIT 3 OF EM SIT OUT AT SAME TIME(LISTEN, IT WAS DIFFERENT TABLES. THT NOTICABLE! BUT THEIR ACTIVITIES R SAME)

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